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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #367
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Sat, 2 Apr 94 Volume 94 : Issue 367
-
- Today's Topics:
- CALLBOOK ON INTERNET
- Minisport Hacker #21
- Packet question
- QSL info for HS0ZAD (2 msgs)
- STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
- Super-conducting antenna (LONG)
- Supermorse under windows.?
- UK callbook via WWW - where is it again?
- Wanted: Plans for 6m transverter
-
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-
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- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 16:21:29 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!nic.umass.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CALLBOOK ON INTERNET
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Bill Turner <wrt@eskimo.com> writes:
-
- >
- >I know of one: telnet to callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000 and do the usual
- >readmes, etc. This is FCC data only, so no furriner info available. If
- >anyone knows of others, I'd like to know about 'em too.
- >
- >73 es gl
- >
- >Bill, W7LZP
- >
-
- Another on-line server is at pc.usl.edu 2000. Type help once you are in.
- You can search by name, call, zip, city, and I think a couple of other
- fields. You can also filter your searches. I used it to quickly find all
- hams in my city. Give it a try, and good luck.
-
- Ned, N8OIF. 73's
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Apr 94 18:33:54 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!nntp.msstate.edu!olivea!isc-br!tau-ceti!jupiter!opus-ovh!bmork@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Minisport Hacker #21
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- MiniSport Laptop Hacker - Vol #21. April 1994
- To discourage pecuniary interests, Copyright (c) 1994 Brian Mork
-
- >>> ADMIN
- The MLHacker series is formatted to print out on 8.5"x11" sheets manual-
- ly fed into an Epson LQ-850. I print at 8 lpi, which gives 82 lines per
- page. My goal is to make each MLHacker one to two pages, to fit front
- and back on one page. Back issues are available via Internet e-mail and
- ftp archives and direct from my data line listed below. File download
- privilege is given on the first call. Use the F)ile option and L)og
- into the \public\computer directory. No cost 'cause I just like doing
- it. Do something you're interested in for free and pass it on!
-
- The Air Force has me committed to some massive amounts of overseas
- flights during April and May. For this reason, I expect MLHacker will
- take a hiatus during that time.
-
- >>> AUTOMOBILE POWER SUPPLY
- Something has been bothering me ever since issue #12 of MLHacker. I
- mentioned how you could tap into your car cigarette lighter, step the
- voltage down to 9 volts and use that to power your Minisport. So far,
- true. My bad recommendation was the placement of a noise-killing capac-
- itor and inductor.
-
- Yes, put a big inductor in series (old lamp ballast works fine) to kill
- ignition glitches. But don't put the capacitor on the car side of the
- inductor. Put it on the *computer* side of the inductor. The problem
- is this: When you switch off the computer, the magnetic field sustained
- by the inductor collapses, forcing continued current flow. But the com-
- puter is off! Being off is a high resistance. As the charge collects
- on this high resistance, the voltage peaks very high. To some extent,
- the internal Minisport battery, which is effectively in parallel across
- the power line, begins to conduct (i.e. charge up) as the voltage rises,
- so there is some limit on the voltage. But I was wrong to suggest put-
- ting the capacitor where the inductor could feed off from it. It's much
- better to put it on the computer side, where it will dampen the inbound
- current. An additional improvement would be to put a diode across the
- inductor (cathode, banded end toward the car). It will then short out
- the inductor spike upon power-down.
-
- Some folks have indicated they run the Minisport straight from 12 volts.
- I'm not sure I'd recommend that, but I'd be interested in anybody's suc-
- cess doing this. Battery? Direct from car? One MLH reader is working
- to modify a drill battery pack to power his Minisport. I hope to talk
- him into writing up notes on the project.
-
- >>> INSIDE THE BATTERY PACK
- Jim sent me a dead battery pack to rip apart. Aha! The final link to
- the puzzle. MLH #12 discusses the wall adapter/battery pack connection.
- MLH #14 discusses the battery pack/computer connection. Issues #17 and
- #18 discuss the switching power supply board inside the Minisport. Fi-
- nally, here's the stuff from inside the battery pack. In the process of
- documenting this, I discovered another error from issue #12--my descrip-
- tion of the small pin on the 3-pin charging connector. I believe the
- information provided here to be the correct interpretation.
-
- BATTERY PACK INTERNALS
-
- Round Power Supply Connector Tab Connectors
- ------------------------------ ----------------
-
- 9V, 2A BOTM --------------------------------------------- CTR (red)
-
- 6V, 1A TOP -------------------------------------------+-- AFT (yellow)
- |
- 8.3V O.C. LITL ----TC1---+ +---:|:|:|--TC2--:|:|---+
- | |
- GND SHIELD --------------+----+---------------------------FORW (black)
-
-
- There is also a tiny chip capacitor between the 9V supply rail and
- ground. A parallel surface mount spot (for a resistor?) is empty on the
- circuit board inside the one battery pack I've inspected.
-
- The charger adapter has four connections: the shield, two similar pins,
- and a third pin smaller than the other two, thus the titles BOTM, TOP,
- and LITL. The tab connections on the bottom of the battery pack corre-
- spond to the three slide connectors visible inside the minisport when
- you remove the battery pack. The colors correspond to the wiring color
- visible inside the computer when the bottom is removed.
-
- TC1 is a thermal cutoff unit, tightly mounted to the battery cell clos-
- est to ground. TC2 appears physically similar. While charging this
- battery pack, I monitored the voltages on the power supply connector.
- BOTM was 9.2V, TOP was 7.6V, and LITL was zero volts. I applied a heat
- gun onto TC1, and at 0:12 the voltage at LITL jumped up to 8.3 volts.
- At 0:40, TC1 closed and the voltage at LITL went back to 0 volts.
-
- It seems clear that the design of this system is to overvoltage the bat-
- teries (7.2v onto a 5x1.2 => 6.0v battery pack) and when the batteries
- get warm, the thermal cutoff ungrounds a signal back to the charging
- unit. To confirm that the charger responds to the signal, I loaded the
- battery pack with a 20 ohm resistor and hooked up the charger, giving
- 7.2 volts across the resistor (about 350 mA drain, 2.5 watts). I would
- expect that if the charger shut off, the voltage would drop a little bit
- as the battery pack picked up the entire load and started discharging.
- Sure enough, after about 20 seconds of heating TC1, the voltage across
- the resistor dropped to 6.8 volts.
-
- Heating TC2 has expected results. While charging, I measured 7.0 volts
- across an unloaded, charging battery. At 0:20 of heating, an audible
- click occurred and the voltage dropped to 2.9 volts. I turned off the
- heat gun and at 1:14, I heard another click and the voltage comes back
- up. While *not* charging, the voltage goes from 6.5 to 0.0 with nearly
- identical timing. I think the 2.9 volts observed while charging was
- residual output from the charging unit.
-
- >>> BAYCOM VS POOR MAN'S PACKET
- Poor Man's Packet software works fine to receive packets on the Minis-
- port using the hardware described back in MLHacker #9. It does not work
- on transmit. If you try to send a packet, the transmit tones just lock
- up at 1200 Hz or 2200 Hz. This was confirmed using another ham's
- (thanks Ron) PMP hardware rigged to run off COM1 (normal DB-9 out the
- back). PMP is written in C, including the AX.25 bit packing routines.
- I think these are just not fast enough when run on the 8 MHz Minisport.
-
- Baycom uses a separately loaded driver to talk to the hardware. It's
- small and efficient, probably written in assembly. I got a copy of Bay-
- com software and using Ron's Baycom hardware, which was rigged to oper-
- ate on a parallel port, everything worked fine.
-
- Conclusion? The Minisport needs bit packing routines written in assem-
- bly. Baycom offers this; PMP does not. I thought the PMP hardware was
- designed to be bit compatible with Baycom (e.g. RTS does the PTT func-
- tion, and so on). Apparently, this is not so. When I redirect the Bay-
- com to COM2, it does not work with the PMP hardware I built and de-
- scribed in MLHacker #9.
-
- I don't have the time right now to do an assembly rewrite of the PMP
- software, so I want to figure out how to use the Baycom software. Any-
- body out there more familiar with Baycom and what bit lines it uses for
- what? Eventually I'll poke around and find out what's going on, but
- maybe somebody could save me the trouble.
-
- >>> FUTURE PROJECTS
- I saved up money for several months and purchased a Fluke 97 digital
- storage scope / DMM "do everything" box. It's roll mode data monitor
- worked great for probing the battery pack. Expensive, but a *superior*
- bench top accessory. I'm interested in anybody using one of these.
- Mine has an optical data interface and that will, I'm sure, eventually
- be hooked to my Minisport.
-
- I also picked up a 670 nm laser diode assembly, including a photodetec-
- tor and stepper motor. The light beam comes up through the shaft of the
- stepper motor, allowing the outbound beam to be aimed onto one of eight
- mirrored segments, and reflected forward. Inbound light is collected by
- all eight segments simultaneously and focused onto the on-axis photode-
- tector. I wonder if I can hook this up to the computer to do a laser
- light show. Or maybe a proof of concept optical radar. Hmm... :-)
-
- Please provide feedback! * Direct data 1-509-244-9260
- * ARO Net KA9SNF@wb7nnf.#ewa.wa.usa
- * Internet bmork@opus-ovh.spk.wa.us
- 73, Brian * 6006-B Eaker, Fairchild, WA 99011
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Apr 1994 18:01:21 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hpscit.sc.hp.com!icon!hpchase.rose.hp.com!robbo@network.ucsd.
- Subject: Packet question
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi!
- I was looking around my local packet BBS the other day
- and 'escaped' to DOS. After reading all the help information I found
- I a feature that allows binary file transfer.
- However, the binary upload/download operation needs a program
- or protocol called AUTOBIN. I left a message for the sysop and packet
- BBS owner, but he had never heard of it. He said he just unpacked
- the software and let it run.
- SO does anyone know about the program/protocol you need to make binary
- transfer possible over packet?
- What is AUTOBIN?
- Where can it be obtained from?
- 73
- Dave
- --
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- ~ Dave Robinson (KD6MXD) (916) 785-4102 ~
- ~ DST M/S R5EF ~
- ~ 8000 Foothills Blvd. ~
- ~ Roseville, CA 95678 ~
- ~ HPDesk: Dave Robinson /HPUNIX/UX ~
- ~ Unix to Unix: robbo@hprpcd.rose.hp.com
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:45:10 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!EU.net!relay.puug.pt!news.inesc.pt!animal.inescn.pt!ciup2.ncc.up.pt!news.ci.ua.pt!etjfonte@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QSL info for HS0ZAD
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Paul K.C. Wang (pwang@tornado.seas.ucla.edu) wrote:
-
- QSL to HS0ZAR I think it is via K3SO ??
-
- --
- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
- | Jose' Miguel M.B.Fonte | Universidade de Aveiro - PORTUGAL |
- | | Departamento de Electronica e Telecom. |
- | E-mail : etjfonte@ci.ua.pt |-----------------------------------------|
- | | Ham callsign : CT1ENQ "always QRV" |
- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:46:09 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!EU.net!relay.puug.pt!news.inesc.pt!animal.inescn.pt!ciup2.ncc.up.pt!news.ci.ua.pt!etjfonte@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QSL info for HS0ZAD
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Paul K.C. Wang (pwang@tornado.seas.ucla.edu) wrote:
-
- Sorry . It's not K3SO but K3ZO
-
- QSL to HS0ZAR via K3ZO
-
- 73's
- --
- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
- | Jose' Miguel M.B.Fonte | Universidade de Aveiro - PORTUGAL |
- | | Departamento de Electronica e Telecom. |
- | E-mail : etjfonte@ci.ua.pt |-----------------------------------------|
- | | Ham callsign : CT1ENQ "always QRV" |
- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Apr 1994 20:02:04 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!furuta@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I find the hams-on-Usenet lists extremely *useful* and am glad they
- are posted here with regularity. The charter of rec.radio.info
- suggests that material posted to rec.radio.info should also be posted
- to another one of the rec.radio groups so limiting it to
- rec.radio.info would raise opposition. Whether or not this is a
- reasonable charter is the topic of a different discussion.
-
- I write mostly because the danger is that the Mark Salyzyn, VE6MGS,
- will read the original message and just decide that the work of
- maintaining the list isn't being appreciated and will decide to spend
- his time on something more rewarding.
-
- I can think of perhaps a half dozen large messages that are posted
- regularly. Many of them I find of significantly less utility than
- this one.
-
- --Rick
- KE3IV
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 19:24:40 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!slay@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Super-conducting antenna (LONG)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I recently received a letter from an old friend, Joe Speroni AH0A/7J1AAA,
- who has been living and working in Japan for many years. He is also the
- author of the well-known MORSE ACADEMY software for teaching Morse Code.
- Anyway, it was such an exciting letter that I thought it would be of
- interest to others here on "the Net".
-
- Dear Sandy:
-
- I had promised a series of articles on Japanese amateur radio, but
- there is something so exciting I just have to take a break and tell
- you about it.
-
- It all started with the work that Ed Coan (AH6MI/7J1AAE) did on
- antenna pattern plotting using his personal computer. The circular,
- and even backward antenna patterns of some of our local TIARA
- club embers brought home the point that what a good station needs is
- a good antenna. Ed's antenna looks great and the results verify it.
- He works regular schedules into Colorado and Maine, just like sunspots
- don't mean anything. My mini-beam just could not compare.
-
- Well, I got to thinking about what we apartment dwellers could do
- and realized that space is THE problem. How do you fit a full-sized
- beam on a balcony? Loading coils are the answer and the problem
- at the same time -- the antenna radiation resistance drops as
- reactance is substituted for length. High current loops develop
- and the power is dissipated in the antenna instead of being radiated.
- If only the antenna didn't dissipate the power. Hmmmmmm....let's
- see, P=E*E*R; if R were 0 then......
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 16:29:25 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!nic.umass.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Supermorse under windows.?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Frank Robey <fcr@ll.mit.edu> writes:
-
- >
- >Has anybody been successful in getting supermorse to run under windows?
- >If so, I would appreciate any help that you could give me.
- >
-
- I'm still working on that too, but the sm.doc file does refer to running
- Supermorse under Windows. I believe it does list a few pointers, specifically
- the timing (loop versus time). I think you need to use loop. This is under
- the setup pull-down menu. Give it a try, and let me know if it works. Please
- refer to the .doc file, because I am not in front of my home computer, and my
- work computer does not have Supermorse installed. I don't want to steer you
- wrong.
-
- 73's
- Ned, N8OIF
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 12:59:14 PST
- From: pa.dec.com!wrksys.enet.dec.com!reisert@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: UK callbook via WWW - where is it again?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I know there is a UK callbook on the WWW, but forgot the address. Can
- someone help me remember?
-
- Thanks - Jim AD1C
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Apr 1994 20:04:49 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!sookit!rspear@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Wanted: Plans for 6m transverter
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Steve Egert (irvse.EGert@dg-rtp.dg.com) wrote:
- :
- : Anyone have any plans/schematics for a 6 meter tranverter? I have a
- : TS-830S to drive it.
-
- steve -
-
- i think i saw a posting here that mfj has a 6m transverter for $99!
-
- regards, richard kd6lwd
-
- rspear@sookit.jpl.nasa.gov
- all disclaimers apply
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- The first test didn't go too well. I connected the TS-930 to the
- super-conducting wafer antenna and tuned it for 10 meters. At room
- temperature, we couldn't hear anything. Using a heat pump, the lab
- technicians started lowering the antenna's temperature toward the
- super-conducting region. I was really impressed by how small the
- equipment is, and started thinking it might all fit in the shack.
- Just then, the TS-930 froze solid, which had a negative effect on
- its operating characteristics. This wouldn't be so easy after all,
- the coax connection would need some study!
-
- We reworked the wafers to put inductive coupling on them, but I could
- find no way to efficiently couple to it from the conducting ceramic
- material that passed RF but not heat. Probably, something that
- Kyocera invented just for this use. I sent the TS-940 to the ham
- shop in Akihabara and asked them to touch it up for me. Suzuki-san
- (service manager at the ham shop) asked exactly how the paint had
- been peeled off around the coax connector -- lightning maybe? No,
- I assured him -- just low temperature exposure, without saying how low
- the temperatures were. The project had to stay secret and besides,
- Suzuki-san can repair anything!
-
- Since it looked like it might be a while before the TS-930 would be
- repaired, I brought out my TS-940. I had already placed an order
- for the Yaesu FT-1000 anyway. After verifying that in the super-
- conducting range the antenna was resonant on 10 meters, we connected
- the TS-940. The ceramic material worked and the rig operated well
- even as we began the cooling cycle. The band seemed dead even
- with the antenna at -150 degrees C. It took another 10 minutes
- to get to the super-conducting range -- then the TS-940 blew up.
- It seems our antenna had a bit more gain than the TS-940 front-end
- could take. Later, with 100 dB of attenuation, measurements showed
- 5 volts coming out of the coax. A little hard to believe, but then
- what do I know about cryogenic LSI antenna technology?!
-
- The TS-940 was also returned to Suzuki-san, but this time he frowned
- a bit -- the front-end board did look like it had been hit by
- lightning. Not to worry, Suzuki-san can repair anything!
-
- The FT-1000 arrived just in time to be able to continue the experiments.
- We built a QSK attenuator to protect the receiver and with the LSI
- wafer antenna still inside the lab, decided to try to make a contact
- on 10 meters. Boy, what a shock when we got it working. The first thing
- we heard was a couple of W2's talking locally on 10 meters and that was
- with 80 dB of attenuation. We had the antenna array on a rotatable
- mount; I moved it about 1 degree and the W2's disappeared.
- What beam width! We tuned them in again, and they were just about to
- sign off, so we thought we would try to work them. The rig was tuned
- up at 50 watts on a dummy load; we switched in the wafer antenna and
- gave N2BA a call. The noise was unbelievable -- an ionized ray shot
- out from the antenna and hit the wall of the building. Before we knocked
- a hole in the band, we took out a piece of the lab wall! Ever wonder
- what an antenna pattern looks like in three dimensions? There was a
- small round hole in the wall of the lab -- about 1 cm in circumference.
- We cut power quickly. N2BA came back on frequency a few minutes
- later and said he was using his back-up rig; something had taken his
- main rig off the air. For some reason, the station he was talking to
- never came back, and so we decided not to transmit again until we knew
- for sure what was going on.
-
- As near as we can tell, the antenna array has 120 dB gain over a dipole,
- but with a beamwidth of 0.75 degrees using the 60 dB points. With
- 50 watts output, the effective radiated power is 55 quadrillion watts
- at the center of the beam (5.5 with 13 zeroes). As soon as the
- University realized what we had built, the entire project was taken
- away from us and turned over to the Japanese Self-Defense Forces.
- Amateur radio "tinkering" has contribute to something, but I am not
- exactly sure what. I haven't the slightest idea what was in those
- wafers or how to explain how to build another set. But what I'd give
- to use a smaller set in the next CQ World Wide Contest! Do you think
- someone may be interested in this idea for Star Wars/SDI??
-
- A few months later, the University contacted all of us and asked
- just how close we had been to the antenna when operating. As best as
- I can figure, we were in the null behind the array. From what has been
- said so far, it looks like a secondary use for our antenna may be as a
- mass sterilizer, but confirmation will have to await the results of
- the medical tests. If our antenna ever hits the market, it looks
- like remote operation would be desirable.
-
- As I am writing this, I have been informed that Suzuki-san can't fix
- everything after all. He's written off the 930 and 940, and I just
- found out that before the university terminated the project, they
- tried one more time with my FT-1000, but without the 100 dB attenuator
- to protect the receiver. It's front-end now matches the 940's and it
- looks like it will be awhile before I am on the air again. Maybe
- Yaesu will announce some new models soon.
-
- Best 73, Joe Speroni AH0A/7J1AAA, ex-Chief Engineer - TIARA
- 1 April 1994
-
- This story has been reprinted and edited from the April 1992 issue of
- the Tokyo International Amateur Radio Association's newsletter.
- Permission is granted to reprint the material provided credit is
- given to both TIARA NEWS and the author - Joe Speroni, AH0A/7J1AAA.
-
- Actually, Joe originally wrote the above back in 1985 and it has been
- updated by others since. Hope you enjoyed it.
- 73 de Sandy WA6BXH/7J1ABV slay@netcom.com 1 April 1994
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Apr 1994 14:38:20 -0600
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!hookup!news.sprintlink.net!bga.com!bga.com!nobody@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Mar30.214549.1792@unet.net.com>, <brett_miller.90.0013B1C5@ccm.hf.intel.com>, <765162276snx@llondel.demon.co.uk>
- Subject : Re: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
-
- The deltas sounds good, but don't play games with the message numbers.
- However, it should be available by a mail server in addition to
- annon ftp.
-
- Alternatively, why not put a filter on your feed side for the subject?
-
- milton
- --
- Milton Miller KB5TKF miltonm@bga.com
-
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-
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